DCE Becomes DTU – What Does It Mean Exactly?
So now that everybody has heard, a bill was passed by the Delhi Legislative Assembly to upgrade DCE (Delhi College of Engineering) to DTU (Delhi Technological University). This means that DCE would no longer be under the administration of DU (University of Delhi), instead, it would be a self-governed university.
What does this mean, or, what impact would it have on current/prospective students?
Before I go ahead and answer that question, I have to mention here that none of these are solid facts backed by proof, but only speculation or stuff I’ve heard from people around me, current DCEites, seniors, or read online.
- DCE will be getting 240 new seats in the bachelors program this year, and possibly even a few new branches to choose from (software, aerospace, automotive, electronics and electrical, engineering physics, medical engineering and nuclear science and engineering are the ones I have heard about).
- DCE will finally be able to upgrade syllabus for various branches on its own without having to beg DU/the Delhi Government to look into it. I doubt this one seriously. How will the management committee of DTU be any different from the people at DU/Delhi government? They will also be the same sarkari babus. If the syllabus had to be upgraded, it would’ve been done by now by DU. I have a feeling that people seriously believe that conventional syllabus is good for preparing students to face challenges in the industry. Either that, or the syllabus hasn’t been upgraded till now because people used the government’s involvement in the process as an excuse to be lazy.
- New, and more qualified permanent faculty will be recruited. Earlier, all the faculty recruitment was done by the UPSC (Union Public Service Commission), going through which was usually a lengthy and tiring process. So if we need Computer/IT faculty right now, we’ll get it 10 years later. By eliminating UPSC as the middleman, we will now have our own faculty recruitment department, and therefore will get new, qualified faculty faster. That is if there is any available.
- The fee will now be increased, and will be regulated by DTU. This one seems most likely, because if new and competent faculty has to be recruited, and the infrastructure be improved, the money has to come from the students. Delhi govt. is removing its hands from DCE, that also means financial independence, I guess.
- The degree that new students will receive will be from DTU, and not from DU, as previously. People going abroad for masters will probably be affected by this, because DU is a reputed and recognised university even outside India, while DTU will now take a little time in achieving a similar ‘name’ for itself. This is also the reason why the teachers/staff of DCE are planning to organise a strike. Current students will receive a degree from DU.
- Now the DTU is a state university, new colleges will be opened under it and admission to those colleges would be through the CEE conducted by DTU. Also, some existing colleges may ask for affiliation from DTU, and get a decent crowd through CEE too.
- Someone out there also said that we’ll now have regular classes, and attendance rules would be followed strictly. The reason stated is reduction of the number of people who can influence these things, and therefore a decrease in corruption. I have no idea if this is good news or bad
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Some FAQs have been put up recently at dce.edu, which you can check out here. If you’re unable to access that URL, don’t blame me, blame the DWD at DCE. They have been a big FAIL with the new website. It does look better than dce.ac.in, but the promises they made to make it a social hub for the college have so far shown no fruit. And the site remains down, a lot, and is already full of broken links.
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July 8th, 2009 at 7:00 am
So what happens to NSIT? Does it remain under DU or does it become an institute affiliated under DTU?
And the ‘degree from DU’ thing is bollocks – just another typical sarkari reason to go on strike and take a few days off. Delhi government has already said that all existing students will graduate with a degree given from DU. The current batch, which will join this year, and who graduate four years down the line are the ones who’ll have a DTU degree. Maybe four years isn’t enough time, but such transitions are inevitable. Pros outweigh the cons.
July 8th, 2009 at 8:06 am
@Ankur Banerjee
Do you have any source/links that confirm the degree thing? That current students will get a degree from DU?
July 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
So DCE becomes something like IPU, eh? Should be fun
July 8th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
1) NSIT now comes under DTU
2) All existing students receive DU degrees. New students receive DTU degrees
July 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
The link stating “teachers/staff of DCE are planning to organise a strike.” cannot be trusted. DCE is NOT being converted into a deemed university. It’s becoming autonomous!
July 9th, 2009 at 1:40 am
@Apoorv: Something wrong with you Subscribe to comments plugin. I’m not receiving updates.
To answer your question, this FAQ on DCE’s own site says:
@Sneezy: Are you sure about that NSIT’s status under DTU? The same FAQ states that DTU will not be an affiliating institution because DU and IP already exist for that purpose.
If it turns out that NSIT remains under DU, and DTU is standalone then another complication crops up – DCE CEE will no longer be valid for both. Delhi students will probably have to give two exams – one conducted by DU Faculty of Technology for admission to NSIT and another conducted by DTU. Unless they can work something out, that is – although I dunno whether such an arrangement it allowed.
July 9th, 2009 at 7:58 am
@Ankur
Thanks for the update. From what I can see you are subscribed to comments for this entry and it should be working fine.
July 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
@AnkurB
Check your spam folder, I guess?
July 9th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
@Apoorv: I can see in the subscription manager that I’m subscribed, but I’m not getting the updates – even in my spam folder.
How about the others? Are you guys getting notifications for new comments?
July 9th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
is nsit under dtu…?
July 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
@king
We’re not sure yet, bet current speculations suggest that NSIT will not be a part of DTU.
July 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
is there any obc reservaqtion in dce and nsit..?
July 13th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
is there any obc reservaqtion in dce and nsit…?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
well there is one thing you do not seem to be knowing…
dtu will be under delhi government. earlier it was under central government.
correct your above points accordingly…
July 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
@sushant
Thanks for the update, but remember to include links from authoritative and trustworthy sites to support the authenticity of your point.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:42 am
hey… i am working for the dwd… the reason because the site was temporarily down was because it was being shifted on he dce server itself from some server in usa… a lot of work has been put into doing this and is a big achievement… so dont blame anyone without knowing the facts well.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:51 am
@Prateek
I’m not blaming anyone, neither am I criticising you or DWD. You guys have done a great job with the website, which is much better and well organised than dce.ac.in. But you need to understand the importance of 100% uptime especially for a prestigious institute like DCE where loads are people are searching/looking for information about it every single second. I’ve known people who leave great web hosts or even sue hosts for >2-3% downtime. Keeping your site up at all times is very important, don’t underestimate the loss incurred during even 1-2 hours of downtime. A first time visitor gets a really bad impression if your site is down.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Though it is a very old blog, it has become more relevant today as lot of things that were raised at that time has become reality today. The Govt. has been reluctant so far to entertain this because of the reality that they have been fooled by personal ambitions of one man who needs the label of VC just to become eligible for coveted constitutional posts like governor, ambassador, or Vice President of India. Its a shame that a state government is protecting these personal ambitions of acquiring a coveted constitutional post of the largest democracy of the whole world that is India, just because the party who is running the state is also running the nation.
I’ll start with some facts that I came across in my inquistivity :
Almost around a year or so back a similar exercise was started in the name of UST, University of Science and Technology and even an OSD was selected for same, that was Mrs. PR Bose HOD CIVIL, DCE and at that time Principal of some other college under DTTE at that time was appointed. Somehow, when the Govt. felt that we are not given enough representation in this scheme of personal ambition, the game fall flat and there was no mention of it again.In my personal opinion , Ps Mr. NarendraKumar was instrumental in averting this embarrassment to the Govt. at that time. But next time, because of intervention of CS Honble Sh. Rakesh Mehta Ji, Sh G. Narendra kUMAR Had to go ahead with the DTU Bill. It may be worth mentioning that Hon’ble Sh Rakesh Mehta Ji is Alumnus of DCe and Sh. G. Narendra kumar was the first head to roll in this issue.